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Livingston · Dec 17, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

I know everyone generally hates Touchers because they are cheap, simple, and boring, but has anyone tried any Touch builds on heroes?

Livingston

Kit Engel · Dec 17, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

They're not very good at it. Even with melee weapons and no weapon mastery, they have a tendency to stand there and try to hack away at the targets. It's kind of irksome.

Arkantos · Dec 17, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

You'd have to manually make then spam the skills. While you're doing that, you're not focusing 100% on your job, which is ftl.

Livingston · Dec 17, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Ah. I thought something like that might happen. That's why I figured it would be easier to simply post the question before I left then to try it myself later.

I hate when hero's don't utilize skills properly even when it seems obvious what they shoudl be used for. For instance, try giving a hero Mending...

Ya might as well slap a trout into their hands.

Evilsod · Dec 17, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Its like the R/N build used for the AFK LB farming i believe. Ideally they would keep the enemies under constant pressure, but they seem to be slow at using some skills. Scarabs typically only used Vampiric Touch when they were starting to take damage. So it wouldn't work.

Even if it did, they'd be that bad with the AI and E-Management you'd be better running a proper build anyway.

Horuku · Dec 17, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

They should add hotkeys for hero skills so that you can easily use their skills :P

Crazyvietguy · Dec 18, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Well contrary to what's been said here, i've found my Touch Ranger (Jin) has done exceptionally well. Shes never died (unless it was a full team wipe) and spams the skills fairly well. I've duoed some bosses with her using my Paragon. But maybe im just not paying enough attention.

Taala · Dec 18, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyvietguy

Well contrary to what's been said here, i've found my Touch Ranger (Jin) has done exceptionally well. Shes never died (unless it was a full team wipe) and spams the skills fairly well. I've duoed some bosses with her using my Paragon. But maybe im just not paying enough attention.

Same here. She goes in for close range and does a fine job at spamming skills. Only times she had stayed back and used a staff to attack instead is when I have her flagged too far away from the target.

Livingston · Dec 19, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Looks like I'll have to try one out then. ^_^

Livingston

Crazyvietguy · Dec 20, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55

Well i thought id invest a little more time into this post and it turns out that if your toucher is sent to defense she will use the staff and only 1 or 2 touch skills at a time and then just randomly stand about. So remember kids, when your making a toucher set them for attack.

ubermancer · Dec 20, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

You could always just write a script to force use of the first two skills on the hero's bar any time they are at <100% HP.

Silk Weaver · Dec 21, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

She's good at it. 100% Health? There's a way to remedy that.

Blood Ritual. With expertise, 4 energy only, plus a Barbed Recurvebow of Enchanting.

Signet of Agony.

Plague Touch.

Now what to do with that inhuman reflex?

Distracting Shot.

Done.

bored-.-bored · Dec 21, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

it would be funy to watch them spam touching skills ^^

Father of Mir · Dec 22, 2006, 08:11 AM // 08:11

Jin does really well with a standard touch build (see wiki). The only mods I needed to make was an +5 nrg weapon (totem axe) and an +nrg focus that will provide at least +6-8nrg. Having an armor mod on the focus is a bonus.
Also a superior expertise rune is a must.

Additionally replace at least one defensive stance with a blood line signet (I use barbed) to further help with nrg consumption.

One thing to note though, DP and the associated energy loss becomes problematic for her.

Now if I can just convince the hero monk not to bother healing her so often ..

Solus_the_Deadly · Dec 24, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Im not sure the heros would fully utilize there enegery and offering of blood well. But i haven't tested so its just a guess.

Corpselooter · Dec 24, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Give her only 1 touch skill, or else she'll run out of energy really, really fast even with 16 explertise.

Crazyvietguy · Dec 24, 2006, 07:07 AM // 07:07

I tend to use OoF with Jin. She uses the standard Vamp Bite, Vamp Touch, and that other one

. Energy seems to be a slight problem because she doesnt use Oof enough. Storm chaser is nice for this.

alarico511 · Dec 27, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Hero=brain of ur pinky(expect fro magrid)

Issac · Dec 29, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

I tried hero toucher in hero battles once my score 20 opponents 0 lol.